The Presidng Bishop Makes A Move To Try Bishop Duncan Early

Read it all at Stand Firm.

Of course, the problem is that the three senior bishops of the House did not consent to his inhibition. Because of the wording of the canons, this is probably a fatal legal flaw in deposing him. But, the PB obviously now wants to try Duncan before, rather than after Lambeth, which was her previous strategy. The change in strategy is probably the result of the easy depositions of Cox and Schofield.

I am truly disgusted with the Episcopal Church.

17 Responses to “The Presidng Bishop Makes A Move To Try Bishop Duncan Early”

  1. 1 David+ March 13, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    I hope you have arranged all your giving to TEC in such a way that none of it goes to 815. That way none of your offerings go to this sort of behavior on the part of TEC.

  2. 2 Tregonsee March 13, 2008 at 8:14 pm


    I will go you one better. All my giving is split between a CANA church and a Continuing Church which I attend. The ultimate, absolutely secure, redirection away from 815. I heartily recommend it for peace of mind and spirit.


  3. 3 OhKay March 13, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Brad–I’m relieved to hear of your disgust. Live on the edge–I mean it. You have your ties to your bishop and he has shown good signs. You are a Deputy to GC at Disneyland. But, at the same time it’s healthy to let out your clear dismay. Keep up the heat.

  4. 4 Fr Dan Martins March 14, 2008 at 1:06 am

    Just a technical observation: No disrespect to Stand Firm, since they’re the sole source for this as far as I can tell, but it really matters under what canon the PB is aiming to “try” Bishop Duncan. If the word “try” comes from her, this implies that she will seek a presentment under something other than Canon Iv.9, the much-abused “Abandonment” canon. Breach of ordination vows, or conduct unbecoming a member of the clergy, for example, are “presentable” offenses. But this requires the empanelment of a court, and an actual trial, with evidence, witnesses, deliberation, and a verdict–i.e. what was done with Bishop Righter in the 90s. This route does not require the approval of the three senior bishops. That little detail (which, BTW, is absent from the Title IV draft now being vetted in advance of GC) is reserved for the Abandonment Canon, for which there is no trial and no appeal.

  5. 5 Ted McWhorter March 14, 2008 at 2:08 am

    I am disgusted with the demonic cabal that has siezed the church, not with the Church per se.

    Not since the great heresies of the first millenium have the faithful been so abused.

    Nice of Kate to push through the persecution of +Cox while the old man is agonizing over the death of his son. She does have a certain flair for the unspeakable doesn’t she?

    Just when you think she and the HOB have run out of ugly, there they come with a fresh outrage. I didn’t know nasty was limitless.

  6. 6 Henry March 14, 2008 at 2:24 am

    I am so sorry to hear of the death of +Cox’s son. How sad for him and Betty. May his soul and the soul of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.

  7. 7 BabyBlue March 14, 2008 at 2:54 am

    Will Brian Cox release a statement?? How many days has it been since his seminar?


  8. 8 Milton March 14, 2008 at 3:11 am

    So does anyone know how +Bauerschmdt of TN voted on the depositions of +Schofield and +Cox? Or for that matter how DioWLa’s +McPherson(sp?) voted?

  9. 9 Matt Kennedy March 14, 2008 at 10:04 am

    Fr. Dan,

    You are right. The word “try” was my word, not theirs. If you read the thread at SF, you will see that this is hashed out and, from earlier letters and docs, it seems clear that KJS will be pushing the IV.9 statute, not IV.1.

  10. 10 David+ March 14, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    As far as giving goes, you need to remember that Brad is still at least for now, in TEC. I think it would be very unreasonable to withold 100% of your tithe from the local parish since that is where you worship and receive the sacraments. As for me and my household, we support certain activites in our local parish which do not fall under the parish budget and therefore are not taxed by the diocese.

  11. 11 descant March 14, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Bishop MacPherson left the meeting early due to pastoral needs in the Diocese.

  12. 12 Milton March 14, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    Glad to hear that at least +MacPherson was not a part of this.

  13. 13 Tregonsee March 14, 2008 at 6:47 pm


    >>Glad to hear that at least +MacPherson was not a part of this.

    How much gladder I would be if +Mac had been among the leaders in defending +Duncan and stayed to fight it out at the HoB meeting to the end. Given his predilection to remain silent in past instances, by his own admission, this is disappointing, but not unexpected. To be “brutally fair,” he is hardly alone in being part of this by acquiescence. But part of this he is!


  14. 14 descant March 14, 2008 at 7:45 pm


    You need to know that +MacPherson really was needed here. I can’t say more, but trust me.

  15. 15 LBStringer March 14, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Henry, I believe there is a confusion of elderly bishops. From what I’ve read, it is Bishop MacBurney whose son who is dying, not Bishop Cox.

  16. 16 Henry March 15, 2008 at 1:21 am

    Thanks for setting me straight on that–my prayers for +MacBurney and family.

  17. 17 Dave March 18, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Just to give another plug for non-pledge tithing, I’ve been doing the same thing since the start of the year, and the possibilities for alternate routes becomes easier as the year goes on. For instance our vestry just decided to create a discretionary fund for the clergy, and it’s supposed to come from the open plate donations. I’ll donate to this, and just to make sure will memo the check that way.

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