George Conger Reports On The Primates Reaction To The New Orleans HOB Statement

Read it all, and it is in line with what I’ve said about it.

he Primates have returned a vote of no confidence in the Episcopal Church. Lambeth Palace reports that a majority of primates have rejected the conclusions of the ACC/Primates Joint Standing Committtee (JSC), and have told the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. Rowan Williams the Episcopal Church has failed, in whole or in part, to honor the recommendations of the Windsor Report and the Primates’ Dar es Salaam communiqué.

The majority rejection of the JSC report comes as a blow to Dr. Williams’ hopes to avert a showdown between the liberal and conservative wings of the Communion. It also marks an unprecedented repudiation of the competence and judgment of the central apparatus of the Anglican Consultative Council.

Following the publication of the positive assessment by the JSC of the actions of the New Orleans meeting of the US House of Bishops, Dr. Williams wrote to the primates asking “How far is your Province able to accept the JSC Report assessment that the Episcopal Church’s House of Bishops have responded positively to the requests of the Windsor Report and those made by the Primates in their Communiqué at the end of their meeting in Dar es Salaam?”

Of the 38 primates, including the Archbishop of York, Dr. John Sentamu, Lambeth Palace reported it had received 26 responses, and no reply from 12. Of the 26, 12 stated they could accept the JSC’s findings, 12 stated they rejected the JSC’s findings, while three offered a mixed verdict, and one said it was continuing to review the matter.

Of those who had not responded, three were from Africa, three from the Indian subcontinent, two from Central and South America, and four from other areas. However, based on past statements from the African and South Asian provinces, the majority reporting a mixed or negative response will be increased to roughly a two third’s margin once their views are communicated to London.

6 Responses to “George Conger Reports On The Primates Reaction To The New Orleans HOB Statement”

  1. 1 rob roy November 28, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    If you want an equivocal response when taking a poll, ask muddled questions. This is precisely what the ABC did. He could have simply asked the primates their opinions of the primates to the adequacy of the HoB response to the DeS requests:

    1) Did they agree to stop ordaining practicing homosexuals as bishop? The answer is they did. Of course, they couched it in B033 and thus the prohibition will be moot when B033, whose fate is sealed, is repealed in 2009.
    2) Did they agree not to bless SSU’s? They did not.
    3) Did they agree to the very specific APO scheme? A most emphatic no. The visitor scheme is a sad joke.
    3 1/2) Have they stopped the lawsuits? Well, that’s pretty obvious.

    The fact that a full one third of the primates and two thirds of the ACC members did respond is a strong condemnation of the polling and the pollster.

  2. 2 Jake November 28, 2007 at 10:47 pm

    George needs to check his numbers again.
    He is mixing up the “disagree” responses with the “no response” responses.

    26 responses to the JSC report. 12 agree, 10 disagree, 3 mixed and one will respond later.

    12 provinvces did not respond.

    How this can possibly be interpreted as “a vote of no confidence in the Episcopal Church” is beyond me.

  3. 3 rob roy November 29, 2007 at 2:54 am

    What part of majority of primates (not primates responding) reject the JSC white wash does Jake not understand?

    How about this? A majority of primates rejected the white wash or rejected the reframing the question of HoB compliance with DeS in terms of the white wash (by not replying).

  4. 4 Ted McWhorter November 29, 2007 at 4:01 am


    I doubt it is really beyond you. 2/3 of the Anglican Communion has stated they will not attend Lambeth with the malefactors of 815 2nd Ave. This Report has verified that a majority of the world’s Anglicans, and their Primates, have rejected TEC’s ludicrous reply. I am of the opinion that +++Rowan will not be the author of the collapse of the UK based Anglican Communion through some suicidal clinging to the miniscule TEC/Canadian cults. ++Peter Abuja, so despised by the white intelligensia of TEC, has more people in one of his dioceses than there are in Ms. Schori’s whole Province. The same can be said for ++Luke Orimbi. They and the rest of the GS are the de facto Anglican Communion.

    Conger has it right. I earnestly pray +++Canterbury can see that and act on it.

    Rowan Williams has done his job, in this case with commendable speed. His response is due within days, hours perhaps. I suspect the liberal clique who have brought PECUSA to this sorry juncture realize the time of accounting is nigh. Expect a lot more whistling through the cemetery as with Fr. Jake above.

  5. 5 Alice C. Linsley November 30, 2007 at 11:44 am

    The true vote of “no confidence” is shown in the growing number of individuals, parishes and dioceses that are seeking realignment with right-believing Anglicans.

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